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HAAS Super Mini Mill vs SYIL X7 Siemens

SYIL X7 Siemens is an excellent affordable small CNC machine, and the #1 alternative to the HAAS Super Mini Mill.

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SYIL X7 Siemens is an excellent affordable small CNC machine, and the #1 alternative to the HAAS Super Mini Mill.

If you are looking for a top-quality small CNC machine but are worried about the exorbitant price of the HAAS Super Mini Mill, we've got an even better option.

SYIL X7 Siemens is an excellent small CNC machine that's not only affordable but also the #1 alternative to the HAAS Super Mini Mill.

 

No doubt that the HAAS is a good machine. But did you know SYIL's machine configuration is pretty much the same?

 

Let's compare our SYIL X7 SIEMENS package to see how we fare.

 

Read on for an overview of the HAAS vs. SYIL with the Siemens 808D ADVANCE control suite comparison. We always use the 808D ADVANCE 16ppu version as it offers the most expandability and functionality.

 

SYIL vs. HAAS: Price comparison

Pricing of a CNC machine is a significant deciding factor, especially when you have a restricted budget, and is almost always a concern while setting up a machine shop.
The HAAS Super Mini Mill is a costly option compared to SYIL with similar features. This is why SYIL is the affordable HAAS Mini Mill alternative that gives you robust performance and an array of features to ensure an outstanding experience.

 

Let's first look at the official price tags of HAAS and SYIL and their machine descriptions.

 

 

HAAS Super Mini Mill

 

SYIL X7 SIEMENS

Price

Official list price: US$ 46,995

Official list price: US$ 39,800

Machine Description
  • 10,000-rpm Spindle
  • 10-Pocket Carousel Tool Changer
  • Window Air Blast
  • Coolant Pump Kit
  • THE HAAS CONTROL
  • Work Light
  • Convenience Package
  • Lifting Provision
  • 10,000 rpm BT30 Belt Type with Power Drawbar System
  • Combo type fully protected enclosure | Coolant kits | Working lights
  • Siemens 808D/A Advanced CNC Controller with 3/4 Axis Servo Motors
  • Automatic Tool Changer with 12pcs set BT30 Type
  • Handwheel MPG Cable type

 

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SYIL vs. HAAS: Feature comparison

The best mini mills make the production process and woodworking smooth, allowing you to manually make things that are tough to do with any power tool.
Even though there are multiple excellent CNC machine options out there today, the perfect and precise machine for the application of woodworking is contingent on how you plan to use it. So figure out if you are into some serious production work or are a hobbyist.

 

Let's dive into a detailed HAAS Super Mini Mill and SYIL X7 review and feature by feature comparison between the two machines:

 

 
 

HAAS Super Mini Mill

SYIL X7 SIEMENS

Spindle

10,000-RPM SPINDLE

10,000-rpm Spindle, 40 taper, belt drive, 15 hp (11.2 kW) vector drive

10,000 - RPM but comes with a better bearings

Equivalent to Grease Packed HAAS option 30 taper Belt drive 5.5kW (Subject to Duty cycle)

Standard Memory

STANDARD PROGRAM MEMORY, 1 GB

Standard Program Memory; 1 GB of onboard memory for program storage and backup

Controller dependent Memory Size Not limited as USB Sticks can be used to run programs

Tools and Storage

CONVENIENCE PACKAGE Convenience Package, includes front work table and storage shelf, toolholder vise, side rack, and toolholder tray.

Not offered from factory

Coolant

COOLANT PUMP KIT

Coolant Pump Kit, 1/4 hp (186 W), 40-gallon (151 liter) tank; includes coolant level sensor

COOLANT PUMP KIT

450 Watt coolant pump on a 110l tank

Early Power-Failure Detection Module

Early Power-Failure Detection Module; senses a power failure or severe drop in incoming line voltage and quickly brings all axis motion to a safe and controlled stop.

Standard in the Siemens drivers

Connectivity

ETHERNET INTERFACE

Ethernet Interface; allows you to easily transfer files to and from the machine over a local wired network.

ETHERNET INTERFACE

Siemens controllers have this

Remote Monitoring

HAASConnect: Remote monitoring of your HAAS machine. Requires the machine to be connected to the Internet.

Remote monitoring

Not available on the 808D Advance but it does have remote diagnostics. Upgrade to the 828 with the extra packages if this is critical to your work

Wireless File Transfer

HAASDrop Wireless File Transfer is a fast and convenient method for sending images, videos, and even program files from a mobile device directly to the Next-Generation Control on a HAAS CNC machine. Available for Android and iOS devices.

Not available. A Raspeberry Pi solution could be used as a network drive though

Controller on board help

MEDIA DISPLAY M-CODE; M130 Media Display M-Code; M130 is used within an NC program to call up media files (images, videos, PDF files)
from memory and display them on the control screen as the program runs. NextGen Control only

The 808D can store PDF and open PDF files. You can even slideshows on it.

Rigid Tapping

Rigid Tapping; synchronized tapping, with built-in tap cycles and up to 8X retract speed

Available on all machines as standard

Automatic Tool Changer

10-POCKET CAROUSEL TOOL CHANGER

10-Station Automatic Tool Changer

12-POCKET CAROUSEL TOOL CHANGER Also 16 available

Control Touch Screen

Touch Screen interface for the HAAS control; allows screen navigation, data entry, and other control functions onscreen,
without using the keypad.

External keyboard compatible with Siemens controllers

Wifi Connection

WiFi Connection for the HAAS Control; provides wireless connectivity between the HAAS control and a local area
network.

Not available

Window Air Blast

HAAS Window Blast; airgun-activated feature for clearing coolant from the machine’s window during machining.

Air gun as standard as well. Easy for user to implement the window cleaning. 

Work Light

Work Light; provides bright illumination for the work area.

Standard as well

Optional Extras available on SYIL for FREE
that are paid for in HAAS!

Auto Air gun

Automatic Air Gun; provides a constant air blast to clear chips during dry machining.

Air blast hose

Macro controlled on all controllers

 

High Flow coolant pump

High-Flow Coolant Pump Kit, 3/4 hp (0.6 kW)

Standard pump kit

Standard pump is still more powerful!

 

Third-Party Rotary Provision, allows you to operate a third-party rotary table on your HAAS mill. NextGen Control only.

No constraint!

As long as the motors and drivers are Siemens, you can add whatever you like!

 

Spindle Orientation

Spindle Orientation allows the spindle to be positioned to a specific, programmed angle, using the spindle motor and spindle encoder for feedback. This option provides inexpensive and repeatable spindle positioning accurate to 0.5 degree

Spindle Orientation

Standard controller option!

 

Visual Part Programming System Visual Part Programming System; a proprietary conversational programming system to quickly write G-code for simple milling routines.

Conversational Programming

Available as a basic function on all controllers. Better on Siemens and expandable to ShopMill on 828D

 

8 Spare M Functions

8 Spare M Functions; provides 8 additional M-code relays for activating other devices.

Controller I/O as standard!

With the amazing documentation and webinars available for all Siemens controllers, you can make as many M functions as you like!

 

USER-DEFINABLE MACROS

Controller I/O as standard!

We do not lock the number of macros you can make!

 

COORDINATE ROTATION AND SCALING

Coordinate Rotation and Scaling; allows you to rotate your part program to another location, and increase or decrease (scale) the size of a toolpath or pattern.

On controller as stanard!

Available as standard on Siemens controllers

 

High-Speed Machining

High-Speed Machining; allows faster feedrates and more complex toolpaths, without hesitation or starving the machine.

High-Speed Machining

Available Siemens Controllers as standard! For more information search CYCLE832

 

 

SYIL vs. HAAS Mini Mill: Which is a better option?

So you are considering buying a CNC machine and are stuck on whether to choose SYIL or HAAS; both are renowned manufacturers, having loyal followers?
Both are the best mini CNC mill manufacturers who serve markets and have strengths. However, it is imperative to gauge each machine company's strengths against your specific needs to find the best mini milling machine for the money.
Also, keep in mind your requirements for types of materials, machine service, tolerances that you may require, and part complexity needed while going through this guide.
Moreover, it is also good to call your support technicians for both HAAS and SYIL to evaluate the local support available before making your final decision.
The SYIL X7 is the best mini metal milling machine with high precision. You get increased power, high rigidity, and high power, making productivity enhancements.
This HAAS Mini Mill alternative also has positioning accuracy, fast feed speed, a spindle torque with advanced level basic technical specifications.
SYIL is the largest model that meets the end users' needs with the exchange of simple MPG operation and a state-of-the-art man-machine interface. There are excellent ergonomic features, space, and processing with the new design, higher visibility, and the best traffic flow.
This, in turn, makes SYIL the best mini CNC Milling Machine with competitive prices and optimal performance.
Whether you require an essential 3-axis CNC Milling Machine, a small VMC for precision performance, or a robust portable Vertical Machining Center (VMC), SYIL X7 is the affordable and best Mini Mill option. It is specially designed for real machining work and has the power to deal with the cutting of weighty materials.

 

Buying a mini mill CNC machine: Factors to consider

A powerful Mini Mill Machine has the highest precision ranges along with the safety features necessary. When finding the best Mini CNC Milling Machine, either considering SYIL or HAAS, it is vital to make a well-versed decision and conduct adequate research before purchasing.
You need to make a list of your specific requirements and needs. Here are some of the factors to consider.

  • Tolerances you require. Will you need strict tolerances or not?
  • Materials' types that you want to use the machine for. Are they hard or easy for the device?
  • Level of production you plan to run. Short runs or high volume light-out?
  • Industries you are catering to primarily. How intricate are the parts for the sector you'll be serving?
  • Expertise and support are available. Are your local technicians have the know-how of the controls, or will they have to learn?

Either you want to invest in and buy a similar Mini Mill Machine to an SYIL or HAAS that you may already have, or you might want to look for the newer one. Make sure you begin by considering all the above and additional factors to make a viable decision.
For your routine milling needs, it is recommended to opt for a Super Mini Mill that is more versatile and affordable.

 

Conclusion

Looking at all key machine specifications, the HAAS Super Mini Mill and the SYIL X7 SIEMENS are almost on the same level of capabilities. The SYIL X7 SIEMENS comes with a lot more out-of-the-box features that you would need to pay extra for when you go for the HAAS.

 

The price difference between the two depends on where you are located, but on average, we dare to say the SYIL comes out around 20% cheaper than the HAAS.

 

We understand that HAAS is the market leader at the moment, but if you are looking for value, connect with SYIL to see how we can assist you!

 

Tags: SYIL X7, Haas

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